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Joy Division – She’s Lost Control/Atmosphere, New Order – Everythings Gone Green

Author: Colin | Published: 14/4/12

Artist 1-5: Joy Division; 6-8: New Order
Title 1-5: She’s Lost Control/Atmosphere; 6-8: Everythings Gone Green
Label 1-5: Factory; 6-8: Factory Benelux
Year 1-5: 1980; 6-8: 1981
Design Peter Saville; 1-5: photograph Charles Meecham
Music Joy Division, New Order
Notes One very well known design and one slightly less so. One with an apostrophe where it should be and one without. One with Ian Curtis, one without. Both produced by the late, great Martin Hannett and both designed by the still active Peter Saville, of whom you may have heard. Two gorgeous designs. One track I never warmed to (Atmosphere).
Also Designer page for Peter Saville
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Comments

  1. I always thought the obverse of “Atmosphere” needed work. The quotation marks around the song titles seems a bad design idea. The centring of the titles is off optical centre by a good bit. I’d have left white space to mirror where the image is positioned on the front, moving all the text down the sleeve. But the front cover is magic!

    Never warmed to “Atmosphere”? One of the few truly great pop songs, IMO. But perhaps better to chill to than to warm to.

    Good catch on the apostrophes!

    Comment by robin — April 15, 2012 @ 1:49 pm
  2. What I love about Saville’s work with Joy Divosion is that those sleeves age so damn well. At times it’s hard to tell if he didn’t intentionally place those scuffs and creases along the edges of the sleeve, to make it look more ancient and romantic. I have a vinyl copy of “Closer”, and it’s been through hell, but it still looks perfect.

    Comment by j. — April 16, 2012 @ 12:41 am
  3. I feel the exact opposite to robin – the quotation marks work so well, making a point that song titles are only that, song titles. And Saville has put all the information on he back in the same place as the information on the front, thus mirroring the beautiful photograph with words that describe it.
    But, after all, this is beautiful work.

    The New Order cover, by contrast, is a hard design. Lines drawn across the sleeve in an abstract design, words on the back in a bold, Teutonic font, all brings back memories of Saville’s early designs for Factory, the original posters for the club etc. And the FBN logo is as far from the Fractured Music logo as you can get! But, in it’s own way, as beautiful as the other sleeve.

    Comment by Conrad — April 19, 2012 @ 8:22 am
  4. “the quotation marks work so well, making a point that song titles are only that, song titles”

    But since that is true of all song titles, how is it particular to the design of this single? I find the implicit wink, the ironic mode adopted in pointing this out to the listener, to be antithetical not only to the music, but to the classicist design otherwise employed.

    Compare (sideways) with “Heroes”, a stupendous song made even better by the addition of quotation marks by the author, not the designer.

    But in any case a timeless design for timeless music.

    Comment by robin — April 22, 2012 @ 12:59 am
  5. “Classicist”? I think I simply meant “classical”. ;-)

    Comment by robin — April 22, 2012 @ 1:00 am
  6. I am not one for arguments online รก la You Tube. I was only saying that I disagreed with robin – this doesn’t mean I am right and he is wrong, only that we are of different opinions, which is how it should be. If we all liked the same thing, this world would be a very boring place.
    I like the quotation marks around the song titles. that doesn’t mean everyone has to. I simply said that my feelings to that part of the overall design were contrary to robins. I thought I could express my own opinions about design here, without the You Tube-type shenanigans.

    Comment by Conrad — May 7, 2012 @ 5:08 pm
  7. Hello Conrad, you can for sure. I can’t see anything in this discussion that suggests otherwise!

    Comment by Colin — May 11, 2012 @ 5:38 pm

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